[jack pfiester]

Which player deserved to make a 2nd ballot, and/or who surprises you the most that they didn't get 5% of the vote?

https://www.beckett.com/news/one-sheet-c...me-ballot/

[jaredhuizenga]

Delgado should have definitely got a little extra time on the ballot. Very Fred McGriff-like to me, except he actually had better OPS, OBP, OPS+, SLG, etc. Just lacked some of the counting numbers that a lot of voters look at.

[Phillies_Joe]

Delgodo & Jose def. deserved more than 1 year. A lot of the rest were players that I liked, but were not HOF'ers imo.

Actually, I think everyone that gets 1 vote should carry over until they get 0 votes in any given year or they hit 10 years eligibility. It's the BBWA HOF anyway...so I no longer care after the past 5-10 years. I care about the history of baseball more than about who is or isn't in the HOF.

[jack pfiester]

I agree with you both that Delgado should've remained on the ballot, and eventually get elected. He doesn't have any PED suspicion to my knowledge, and wasn't named in the Mitchell Report.

Although his career, and Shawn Green's, took off when Canseco and Clemens arrived in Toronto!

Maybe it's just me but I think Alfonso Soriano was very underrated.

[kerryandbeth]

Here is a different view: If a player's RC is less than $3 value there would be no reason to put that player in the HOF since value of a RC is based on performance and popularity.

Jeff Kent is a good example...both RCs I had were $2.50 value and he is expired from eligibility. Manny Ramirez deserves to get in with $4 RC value for three cards I have, so we will see.

[rjcj2017]

But then by that logic, every hot s--t Bowman Chrome auto prospect that comes out of the gates at $150 would be a first ballot Hall of Famer before even playing a game.

Then again, most "prospectors" think they will anyway, so you might be on to something ...

[kerryandbeth]

But then by that logic, every hot s--t Bowman Chrome auto prospect that comes out of the gates at $150 would be a first ballot Hall of Famer before even playing a game.

Then again, most "prospectors" think they will anyway, so you might be on to something ...

No, because they would still have to follow the years played and actual retirement rules to qualify.  Will CJ Abrams RC value be $5 or more in 12-15 years???

[jack pfiester]

Here is a different view:  If a player's RC is less than $3 value there would be no reason to put that player in the HOF since value of a RC is based on performance and popularity.

Jeff Kent is a good example...both RCs I had were $2.50 value and he is expired from eligibility.  Manny Ramirez deserves to get in with $4 RC value for three cards I have, so we will see.

Are you not counting 1992 Fleer Update Jeff Kent as a RC?  I know it's an XRC but it's the same year as his Leaf and Pinnacle RCs.

[rjcj2017]

No, because they would still have to follow the years played and actual retirement rules to qualify.  Will CJ Abrams RC value be $5 or more in 12-15 years???

At least $500 - if not $5,000

Let's goooooooooooooooooooooo

[kerryandbeth]

Are you not counting 1992 Fleer Update Jeff Kent as a RC?  I know it's an XRC but it's the same year as his Leaf and Pinnacle RCs.

I mentioned RCs I actually owned (had).