Who's the greatest 2nd baseman
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My brother in law was a really good 2nd basemen so I will go with him.
I like :
1970's - Joe Morgan 1990's - early 2000's - Jefft Kent - SB in the HOF plus he was on Survivor - my favorite TV show!!!! Mid 2000's - 2010's Chase Utley RJ - Lou sb in the HOP also.......
*When it's all said and done - all we have left is our reputation.
 (12-11-2023, 03:33 PM)Phillies_Joe Wrote: I like :Especially since Trammell got in ... their career numbers + awards are almost identical. 
I'd take Rod Carew by a slim margin over Joe Morgan and Rogers Hornsby.
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Posted this earlier this year but it bears repeating ...
If you guys want a real debate, check out Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker Trammell - in the Hall of Fame 20 seasons, all with Tigers - so no ballpark discrepancies, 1977-1996 2,293 games played .285 BA 2,365 hits 185 HR 1,003 RBI 6X All-Star 1984 World Series MVP 4X Gold Glove Award 3X Silver Slugger Whitaker - not in the Hall of Fame 19 seasons, all with Tigers - so no ballpark discrepancies, 1977-1995 2,390 games played .276 BA 2,369 hits 244 HR 1,084 RBI 5X All-Star 1978 AL Rookie of the Year 3X Gold Glove Award 4X Silver Slugger I mean, it's almost eerie how nearly identical their careers were. I guess Trammell's World Series MVP trumps Whitaker's ROY award, but they're identical in terms of total numbers of Silver Sluggers and Gold Gloves. Trammell made the All-Star Game one extra time, but other than a nine-point difference in batting average in Trammell's favor, Whitaker pretty much outslugged him in every category. Basically, to say one deserves it over the other really doesn't make sense at all. I say both or neither, and since Tram is already in, it's time to let Sweet Lou in as well.
Since you're debating similar teammates, here's another comparison as we hijack this thread:
Jim Rice - in the Hall of Fame 16 seasons with Red Sox, 1974-1989 2,089 games played .298 BA 2,452 hits 382 HR 1,451 RBI 8x All-Star 1978 AL MVP (6x top 5 in voting) 4X Gold Glove Award 2X Silver Slugger Dwight Evans - not in the Hall of fame 19 seasons with Red Sox, 1 season with Orioles, 1972-1991 2,606 games played .272 BA 2,446 hits 385 HR 1,384 RBI 3x All-Star (2x top 5 in AL MVP voting) 8X Gold Glove Award 2X Silver Slugger Pretty similar stats although Dewey has a couple more years. Rice has the edge in All-Star & MVP and Dewey has it in Gold Gloves. My Huge Wantlist: http://www.zeprock.com/WantList.html
Yep, it's crazy.
The only thing I can think of is how certain players are perceived by their teammates or the media or something? (Not that I'm aware of any negativity regarding any of those four guys) Because one of the great things about baseball is that numbers are pretty straightforward and easy to compare. |
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