[chevy man 22]

Do people really care that much about subgrades? I mean the overall final grade 9.5 or 10 is what matters.

Planning on doing a sub soon and $15 per card compared to $30 with subgrades adds up quick. I can grade twice as many cards for same price.

[cspen]

I like the sub grades.  Then I have some kind of idea why the card got the grade it did.

[jplarson]

I prefer subgrades, it was the main selling point for me over PSA back in 2000 when I started grading. Even if they aren't printing the subgrades, you know they still check all 4 areas for condition in order to arrive at the final grade.

[y2hood]

Depending on what I'm grading is the determining factor for me. My lower end PC stuff doesn't necessarily need subgrades but my National Treasures stuff definitely gets the sub-grade treatment.

I'm pretty much out of things to sell, anything I submit now is for protection, by and large.

[DrMitchJ]

So, if I remember correctly, (and please correct me if I’m wrong) a card can’t grade higher than it’s lowest sub grade. So if a card gets a grade of 9.5 there are 4 possibilities:
1) are four all 9.5s
2) three 9.5s and a 10.0
3) Two 9.5s and two 10s
4) One 9.5 and three 10s

So if that is the case, and they all grade out at a 9.5, there is a clear cut distinction to the more OCD collector where he/she/them may see paying a premium for scenario number 4 as compared to #1.
I’m assuming a 10 gem mint card needs to have all 4 subs at a 10, so number 4 is very, very close to a gem mint 10 grade as compared to the others.

[magneto2]

Good idea but this is not accurate to the point that if you have 3 "10" sub grades on a card with the last being a 9.5 it will get a gem mint 10 at least in the cases i have with BGS. A 9 can lower it back to a 9.5 as far as i have experienced it. I have only gotten 2 Pristine cards from BGS but one is a Trout Finest auto with all 3 sub grades of 10 and 1 with a 9.5 but the auto is a 10. The other was a gold refractor Correa that i sold.

[DrMitchJ]

Good idea but this is not accurate to the point that if you have 3 "10" sub grades on a card with the last being a 9.5  it will get a gem mint 10 at least in the cases i have with BGS.  A 9 can lower it back to a 9.5 as far as i have experienced it.  I have only gotten 2 Pristine cards from BGS but one is a Trout Finest auto with all 3 sub grades of 10 and 1 with a 9.5 but the auto is a 10.  The other was a gold refractor Correa that i sold.

Thanks for the clarification.
But my point is that basically, all 9.5 cards are not the same. Some may have certain aspects that are better than other 9.5 cards and a collector may like one’s composite subgrades better than another’s.

[jplarson]

So, if I remember correctly, (and please correct me if I’m wrong) a card can’t grade higher than it’s lowest sub grade. So if a card gets a grade of 9.5 there are 4 possibilities:
1)  are four  all 9.5s
2) three 9.5s and a 10.0
3) Two 9.5s and two 10s
4) One 9.5 and three 10s

The card can't grade higher than it's 2nd lowest grade in most cases.  a BGS 9.5 could have subgrades of 3x 9.5 and 1x 9.0.  As someone who keeps a registry, it would drive me nuts to have half the registry with subgrades and half without.

[rob024420]

I personally like sub grades for 2 reasons.

1. I like to know where the "issue" with my card is if I didn't get a 10.

2. If I got a (3) 10s and (1) 9.5 as subs I would be tempted to crack it and resubmit for a black label.

[hempick]

I really like subgrades, too.

The reason I prefer BGS so much is because of that.